Good Start Using Prematchtrading

Any regular readers of this website will know that I spent the whole of last season trading the Over/Under 2.5 goals market pre match, using my own method.

This season I have decided to give the subscription service, prematchtrading.com a go. I’ve joined it for a couple of reasons really. First, I’ve always been curious to see if it as good as it is supposed to be – and secondly, I wanted to see if there was anything I could learn to compliment my own trading.

As advised, I received my email on Saturday morning (there was another one on Sunday). It had advice about 4 premier league matches, all concerned certain scores in the correct score markets. One of the games the email advised was Liverpool V Stoke, it advised that 1-0 looks ok to back at 8.0, with the caveat, that if circumstances (certain markets) change, don’t trade. Circumstances didn’t change in the build up, and as the email said, 1-0 did get backed in allowing a trade.

All in all I followed the advised trades in three of the matches (there were 4 matches advised), and on all three occasions the market behaved in the way the email predicted.

The way the email system appears to work is that it advises you to trade a particular score, using fairly large stakes (I’d say you would need a minimum of £100.00) you trade a tick or two at a time, ie, you’d back 1-0 at 8.0, and lay at 7.6 or 7.8, and then maybe go back in again.

You would then have the option of spreading your green across all scores, or using it to trade in match, or just leaving it as a free bet. Personally, I would always green up across the board, picking out a correct score is never easy.

This is why I would need stakes of £100.00 and/or more. I would be greening up across the board, so to have any chance of making any money after subscription, I would need to be making at the very least £5.00 a match.

Using £100.00 stakes, a back at 8.0 and a lay at 7.8 would give me just over £2.40 green across all scores. So using stakes of around £250.00 would probably be the best option, as it would get the £5.00 done in one trade. And then if the option was there to go back in once more, I would be in the position of making a weeks subscription in one match.

The system costs £20.00 for 14 days (it is cheaper if you purchase a longer period of time), basically a maximum of £10.00 a week. As the example above shows, you could make that one week’s subscription money a match if you use stakes of £250.00, so it should pay for itself quite comfortably.

I would recommend getting if for a month (£39.00), and seeing how you get on with it. It may take a couple of weeks to feel comfortable using the methods, so a month would give you time to use it properly and see if it’s the system for you.

On Sunday I tried out the main reason I joined the service, the pre match trading (PMT) tool. I used it on the Barcelona V Levante match to trade the Over/Under 3.5 goals market. Under 3.5 goals was trading at around 2.50 – 2.52, the PMT tool was telling me it should be trading at 2.58. I matched a lay bet at 2.52, and sure enough about 5 minutes before kick off, Under 3.5 goals was trading at 2.56 – 2.58 (I got out at 2.56).

I also followed the chat room on Saturday afternoon, and that looks very informative. A chap called Ads, one of the systems owners, was in there giving out helpful advice most of Saturday afternoon. It’s good that you can actually chat to one of the owners and pick up first hand advice from him.

For me though, the PMT tool looks bloody good. It is especially helpful for my trading method as I do the Over/Under 2.5 goals market. The PMT tool (software) tells me where the price of the market should be, compared to where it is.

For example, if Over 2.5 goals is trading at 2.02 on Betfair, the tool tells me this, but the jewel in the crown is that it tells me what the price should be (based on all the collective markets on the match), so it may tell me that the current price is correct, or it may tell me that the price should be 2.06, so on that basis I would know to lay 2.02. It basically picks out any misalignments in the price, allowing me to take advantage of it.

So far for me, Prematchtrading.com looks value for money. The emails look good, they are easy to understand, and the advice seems accurate. There is a helpful chat room, and the PMT tool works out what the true odds should be on every big match across Europe. So far so good as far as I am concerned, I am very happy with my purchase.

For more information, or too purchase PMT, please click here…..

Pre Match Trading – Week 43 Results

17 June Tahiti v Nigeria / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £1.80
17 June Tahiti v Nigeria / Over/Under 3.5 Goals – Won £1.56
18 June Italy U21 v Spain U21 / Match Odds – Won £4.26
19 June Brazil v Mexico / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – LOST £1.04
20 June Nigeria v Uruguay / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £1.86
22 June Italy v Brazil / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £1.27
23 June Nigeria v Spain / Over/Under 3.5 Goals – Won £2.62

A week’s online football trading profit of £12.33

Total Pre Match Trading profits to date is £288.07. My football betting bank now stands at £388.07, I started off the experiment with a betting bank of £100.00 and use around 75% of my available bank on my trades, which are all done pre kick off using Betfair.

A slightly busier week that the previous one with plenty of Confederations Cup activity and the final of the Under 21 European Championships traded.

I slightly deviated from my usual Over/Under 2.5 goals trades to get involved in the U21 European Championships final as I could only see the Spain price in the 90 minute betting going one way.

It was trading at just under 1.8, and I couldn’t really see it drifting so I managed to trade it a couple of times, twice backing at 1.79, and twice laying at 1.77.

In fairness it didn’t come in as I expected it would, as I thought it might steam in 6 or 7 ticks, but it moved around enough to allow me to trade in and out a couple of times for a nice quick profit.

The rest of the trades were pretty much standard trades. I made a bit of a mess of both the Brazil trades, I should have picked up more than I did in their match against Italy, and I shouldn’t have lost in their match against Mexico.

In fact the Brazilians cost me throughout the whole bloody tournament.

Getting closer to that £400.00 barrier now….. something is bound to go wrong, arghhhhhh

Pre Match Trading – Week 42 Results

16 June Mexico v Italy / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £2.42
16 June Spain v Uruguay / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £2.89

A week’s online football trading profit of £5.31

Total Pre Match Trading profits to date is £275.74. My football betting bank now stands at £375.74, I started off the experiment with a betting bank of £100.00 and use around 75% of my available bank on my trades, which are all done pre kick off using Betfair.

I’m going to rattle through these results this week as I’m getting behind with them and there’s not much to report at this time of the year really.

Just a couple of Confederations Cup matches traded this week, and small profits on both trades.

I’m pushing up towards the £400 mark though, so it will be nice when I finally break that.

I’m not expecting to get near my weekly targets at this time of the year really, as there is little football to get involved in, and I’m also spending a lot of time trading Golf, Cricket, Rugby Union, etc.

Pre Match Trading – Week 41 Results

4 June Japan v Australia / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £2.00
5 June England U21 v Italy U21 / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £2.79
5 June Sao Paulo v Goias / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £1.49
7 June Croatia v Scotland / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won 43p
9 June Netherlands U21 v Russia U21 / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £1.06
9 June Brazil v France / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £1.84

A week’s online football trading profit of £9.61

Total Pre Match Trading profits to date is £270.43. My football betting bank now stands at £370.43, I started off the experiment with a betting bank of £100.00 and use around 75% of my available bank on my trades, which are all done pre kick off using Betfair.

It was a slightly busier period this week with six matches traded, compared to the to matches traded last week.

I traded all the matches using my two ticks method, where I place my lay bet two ticks below trading price – and my back bet, two ticks above trading price.

This method of trading seems to be working well at the moment. Although I haven’t been hit by a price going downhill like a runaway train lately, which is always helpful.

I suppose without properly analysing a block of results it will be hard to know whether a good run of wins is down to an improvement in strategy, or down to no one off large losses (which I had a spate of, a few weeks back).

I expect a quiet week next week as I will probably be trading cricket, with the ICC Champions Trophy currently in progress, and some golf, with the US Open starting on Thursday.

The Confederations Cup also starts on Saturday, so that could hopefully lead to some good trading opportunities from the weekend and onwards.

Pre Match Trading – Week 40 Results

29 May England v Rep of Ireland / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £1.73
1 June Bayern Munich v Stuttgart / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £2.42

A week’s online football trading profit of £4.15

Total Pre Match Trading profits to date is £260.82. My football betting bank now stands at £360.82, I started off the experiment with a betting bank of £100.00 and use around 75% of my available bank on my trades, which are all done pre kick off using Betfair.

Another quiet week, with just the two matches traded.

I only got involved in the match between England and Republic of Ireland once. It was one of those matches of which the market was hard to read, so after one trade I just decided to leave it alone.

It was a similar case with the Champions League final between Munich and Dortmund, this time my activity was limited as I was more interested in concentrating on making the most of the regular £50 Bet365 Free Bet for existing customers.

With this in mind, I just done a couple of trades in the afternoon, and then left it alone again. I was trying to get my qualifying bet (for my free bet) on at a certain price, so I didn’t want to have any distractions going on.

I know it’s not difficult to do both, but I find at times if I’ve got two things going on at once, one can accidentally get overlooked. This can lead to cock ups which can cost money, so on this occasion an over cautious safety first approach was adopted (some might call it sensible).

I’m hoping to get involved in more matches next week with the Under 21 European Championships starting and some World Cup qualifiers to be played.

Pre Match Trading – Week 39 Results

20 May Mallorca v Betis / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £4.12

A week’s online football trading profit of £4.12

Total Pre Match Trading profits to date is £256.67. My football betting bank now stands at £356.67, I started off the experiment with a betting bank of £100.00 and use around 75% of my available bank on my trades, which are all done pre kick off using Betfair.

Not much to report this week, as there was just the one match traded, so thankfully it was a win. I had to trade this match three times to get over £4.00 green on both sides.

I get the feeling it’s going to be a quiet few weeks over the summer. I know that there’s leagues going on all over the world, but it’s finding matches with enough liquidity to trade that’s the problem. It will at least give me the opportunity to try out the system on matches I know nothing about, which is something I have been looking to do for some time now.

I’ve mentioned it in recent posts, I want to look at the possibility of being able to use this system on any football match. In order to see if this will work in the long run, I will need to examine the difference between trading matches I know something about, and trading matches I know nothing about. I suppose at this time of year, I have no option but to try the latter.

The one match I traded this week is a prime example of this. If I’m totally honest I don’t know much about the two teams involved. So what’s the difference between trading this match, and one in South America (liquidity aside)?

Moving onto other issues, and the summer months will give me time to experiment with other systems and start to look at my season long bets for next year. I will probably leave placing my season bets for next year until new managers are announced and players are signed, but I will certainly keep an eye on football bookies online to see if there is any early summer bargains to be had.

Chelsea could be a big betting mover if Mourinho comes in. It won’t just be him, there is certain to be a couple of massive signings arriving with him. I believe the markets have factored in Mourinho arriving, but maybe not a couple of world beating signings. This is just an example of what I will be looking at.

I will also try out Assured Soccer Profits this summer, as that is a system that definitely requires no real football knowledge, so is ideal for this time of year.

Pre Match Trading – Week 38 Results

13 May Brighton v C Palace / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won 94p
13 May Sociedad v Granada / Over/Under 3.5 Goals – Won £1.00
15 May Benfica v Chelsea / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £4.78
15 May Palmeiras v Tijuana / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – LOST £8.06
19 May Tottenham v Sunderland / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won 96p
19 May Newcastle v Arsenal / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £2.47

A week’s online football trading profit of £2.09

Total Pre Match Trading profits to date is £252.55. My football betting bank now stands at £352.55, I started off the experiment with a betting bank of £100.00 and use around 75% of my available bank on my trades, which are all done pre kick off using Betfair.

When trading football on Betfair, it only takes one dodgy trade to ruin a weeks figures, and that’s exactly what happened this week.

The game in question I knew nothing about. It was a late night match on a Wednesday, and I tried to trade a gap in the market. Obviously the market was misaligned as my lay of Under 2.5 goals got matched (my back bet didn’t), and the price then continued to get backed in.

I placed my back and lay bets one tick above and below the market price. With the gap already in the market, I assumed that left me a lot of leverage (if the price was wrong or moved). Clearly that wasn’t enough leverage as the price was clearly wrong. And then to compound that misjudgement, the odds continued to get backed in.

I’m not sure if it was wrong to get involved in the match. I want to be able to use this system on as many matches as possible, so I need to explore trading football matches I know nothing about.

I want to find out if this is a system that can be used only on matches I know something about, or if it can be an emotionless, statistical system that can be used on nearly any match.

I’ve won and lost trading with and without knowledge. Sometimes though, knowledge is key. For example, if it was Manchester United V West Ham the Saturday before a Champions League fixture, it would be good to use the knowledge gained to know not to get involved before the teams are announced as Moyes may keep his big names on the bench, meaning a big price shift.

Moving forward, it’s something for me to ponder as I try to hone the system. I know trading Over/Under 2.5 goals a tick at a time sounds pretty basic (and it is), but trying to eliminate as many of the little things that can go wrong (as possible) is important, as some weeks this can be the difference between profit and break even, or loss.

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Pre Match Trading – Week 37 Results

8 May Chelsea v Tottenham / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £1.11
9 May Leicester v Watford / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £2.84
10 May C Palace v Brighton / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £2.43
11 May Aston Villa v Chelsea / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £2.16
11 May Man City v Wigan / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £3.94
11 May Espanyol v Real Madrid / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £3.25
12 May Watford v Leicester / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £2.09
12 May Stoke v Tottenham / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £2.56
12 May Malaga v Sevilla / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £1.07

A week’s online football trading profit of £21.45

Total Pre Match Trading profits to date is £250.46. My football betting bank now stands at £350.46, I started off the experiment with a betting bank of £100.00 and use around 75% of my available bank on my trades, which are all done pre kick off using Betfair.

This is more like where I want to be. My weekly target is around 7.5% profit (basically I am happy with anything between 5% and 10%), and Week 37 seen a profit of just over 9% come in. And that was just from the nine matches traded.

The last few weeks have really seen a turn around in fortunes, and it is now starting to reflect in the betting bank.

Without wishing to bore, I am still using my two ticks above and below the back and lay price method (for those not familiar, I mention it every week now). And I am also sometimes going three ticks above and below, mainly on matches with lower liquidity.

Sometimes I’m finding I don’t get matched, but that’s ok as it’s slowly dawning on me that I don’t need to get involved in every match. And as making 9% profit from just nine traded matches shows, not having a losing trade can make a huge difference.

In the past I don’t think I put much emphasis on not losing. I think I traded with the attitude that I needed to get involved in as many matches as possible and in the long run the wins would outweigh the losses.

Which judging by the results from December to March, was clearly the wrong attitude.

Pre Match Trading – Week 36 Results

30 April Real Madrid v Dortmund / Over/Under 3.5 Goals – Won £2.32
1 May Barcelona v B Munich / Over/Under 3.5 Goals – Won £4.26
2 May Chelsea v Basel / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £1.47
3 May Sheff Utd v Yeovil / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £1.27
4 May Hull v Cardiff / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £1.00
4 May Hull v Cardiff / Match Odds – Won £4.08
4 May Deportivo v Atl Madrid / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £1.88
5 May Liverpool V Everton / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Lost £1.99

A week’s online football trading profit of £14.29

Total Pre Match Trading profits to date is £229.01. My football betting bank now stands at £329.01, I started off the experiment with a betting bank of £100.00 and use around 75% of my available bank on my trades, which are all done pre kick off using Betfair.

Will keep this article short as I’m behind with my results and want to try and get them up to date this week.

It was another week of steady profits. Like with last week, I again placed my back and lay bets an extra tick away from the trading prices. This strategy seems to be working on the whole, so I’m going to persist with it over the next few weeks and hope the profits continue to flow.

Pre Match Trading – Week 35 Results

22 April Man Utd v Aston Villa / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £3.86
23 April B Munich v Barcelona / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won 97p
23 April B Munich v Barcelona / Match Odds – Won £1.90
24 April Dortmund v Real Madrid / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £1.64
25 April Basel v Chelsea / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £8.06
26 April Leicester v Watford / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £2.11
27 April Man City v West Ham / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £2.80
28 April Espanyol v Granada / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £2.10
28 April Reading v QPR / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £1.94
28 April Chelsea v Swansea / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won 99p
28 April Valladolid v Sevilla / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £3.64
28 April Sociedad v Valencia / Over/Under 2.5 Goals – Won £2.52

A week’s online football trading profit of £32.53

Total Pre Match Trading profits to date is £214.72. My football betting bank now stands at £314.72, I started off the experiment with a betting bank of £100.00 and use around 75% of my available bank on my trades, which are all done pre kick off using Betfair.

This is more like it now. Another week’s straight wins with no losses at all, and I’ve finally broke through the £200 profit barrier.

The only significant difference I can see in my trading, is that I have started to put my back bet and lay bet up a couple of ticks more away from where I used to.

For example, if a market was showing Over 2.5 goals at 1.95 to back and 1.96 to lay, I have been putting my bets up at 1.93 or 1.94 to lay, and 1.97 or 1.98 to back. Whereas in the past I would have placed my back bet at 1.96 and my lay bet at 1.95.

This seems to have given me more leverage if a market moves a bit more aggressively than anticipated. It also makes a steamer slightly less costly. The flip side is that sometimes I don’t get a bet matched at all though, I feel this is a price worth paying though – remember, patience!

Is it the new slightly adjusted method that has led to these profits? Or have I just hit a run of good fortune? Not sure really, all I can do is carry on doing what I’ve been doing and see if it’s still producing good results in a few weeks time.